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>> wendy: across the former soviet union, believers are reaching their countries for christ, no matter what the



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dangerous calling. >> wendy: plus...a pro bowl player with a major league problem. find out what got him back in the game. >> that's when i just knew that god -- that was a true word from the lord,


and it was for me. >> wendy: on today's "700 club." >> pat: well, welcome to this edition of "the 700 club." we've got some great things for you. but, i'll tell you,


overseas, maybe the asians are used to inflamed rhetoric, and certainly dictators just like to blow off steam in front of their people to get them all steamed up. but the guy that is in charge of north korea is


saying some things that have got us all steamed up. they say, well, it is just a war of words between the u.s. and north korea, but the north is threatening to turn it into the ultimate battle, a thermal


nuclear war with atom bombs falling on the west coast of the united states of america. that's serious business. terry? >> terry: north korea says it is prepared to fight if the united states


takes military action to stop its ballistic missile program. still, president trump isn't backing down from his move to finally end kim jong-un's threats. efrem graham has the story.


>> efrem: in the aftermath of vice-president pence's visit to the korean demilitarized zone, the deputy representative at the u.n. gave a stern warning to the nuclear body.


>> the nuclear war may break out in any moment on the peninsula. >> efrem: how great is the north korea threat? despite this weakened's missile failure, last month the country launched four ballistic missiles


more than 600 miles. they dropped into the sea of japan. three of them in japanese territorial waters. that was followed by more threats to launch missiles, and maybe even a nuclear one against the


united states. north korea is not backing down. >> we'll be conducting more missile tests on a weekly, monthly, and yearly basis. >> any message for north korea?


>> yeah, got to behave. >> efrem: in japan, vice president mike pence said the u.s. will be reaching out to north korea's neighbors to help shut down kim jong-un's missile and nuclear development >> the era of strategic


patience is over. while all option are on the table, president trump is determined to work closely with japan, with south korea, with all of our allies in the region, and with china. >> efrem: china wants to


cool tempers and would like to see a return to multi-lateral negotiations with north korea. but pyongyang has a long record of bad behavior, and it broke a previous agreement negotiated by president bill clinton.


in 1994, the korean government agreed to shut down its nuclear development program. five years later, cbn news obtained satellite imagery showing a plutonium production site still in operation.


>> president trump: north korea is a problem. the problem will be taken care of. >> efrem: for now, the president isn't saying how he intends to deal with the north korean problem. but the united states is


in the first phase of deploying the thaad in south korea. and when asked what he plans next, president trump said "wait and see." efrem graham, cbn news. >> pat: well, you're watching "the 700 club."


our international correspondent gary lane is with us. you were in north korea. you've seen some of these things, and tell us what your reaction is. >> reporter: i think we have to take him at his


word, what kim jong-un is saying. does he have the capability to launch a nuclear missile against the u.s., maybe not at this time. but if he continues down the road, he will


eventually do that. >> pat: the thing is so -- i was stationed north of the 38th parallel when i was in career, and i'm familiar with the mountainous region. but seoul, when i first


saw it, it was kind of like this sleepy little korean village, where they had the honey buckets for, they didn't have any sewers. you come back, and it is one of the most modern cities with millions of


people in it. and the north has targeted them. what kind of armament does the north have that they could aim at seoul, for example? >> reporter: as you know, they've got these


missiles they've been launching with a range of 600 miles. i don't know that they can put a nuclear device on that, but they can put some power behind it. they have a thrust of about 80 tons, so that is


a pretty powerful missile. those could strike there. and they have armaments along the border, and as much as a million men that they could deploy. and just cross over the border. it would take them


probably less than two hours to get to seoul. >> pat: and we just have a little trip wire. we've got some thousands of people -- >> reporter: we have about 29,000 troops there. >> pat: that wouldn't


stand up against a million men. >> and the south koreans have about a half million. >> pat: they are going about their business. what are they doing? it is an extraordinarily prosperous country?


>> reporter: south >> pat: yes. >> reporter: oh, yes. many of their cars are driven here in the u.s., hyundai and kia and so forth. what north korea is doing now, they're trying to put


on a show that pyongyang is this up-and-coming city now with new buildings and modern shopping centers and so forth. but it is all for show. because if you go into the countryside, many of the people are starving.


>> pat: have you had a chance to go up there and visit? >> reporter: i haven't been to pyongyang. i walked across the border, and i had a north korean guard -- if looks could kill, i would


probably be dead. but i seen crafd bac crossed back into south korea. but our vice president was there, and he stared them down as well. >> pat: they talk about that "mother of all bombs," moab, a


bunker-buster -- >> reporter: it is a powerful weapon. >> pat: we could use that against pyongyang, if they could identify where the nuclear facilities are. >> reporter: it is about


11 tons of t.n.t. it is a very powerful bomb with used in afghanistan. i think the concern has been, pat, as you know, it is a densely populated area. you can't use tactical nukes because if you do,


the fallout would go into china, japan, south korea, russia, and so forth. you have to minimize civilian casualties. the "mother of all bombs" would do that. >> pat: you've talked to people, and what have they


be saying? i've been wrestling with some solutions -- >> reporter: the president has said, he is tired of this. we have gone for 25 years. what has happened under bill clinton and then


under bush and obama, they make agreements and then they violate those. they go a couple of years, and then they start building their nuclear facilities and their missiles again. there is some indication


that they have a missile program right now with iran, in cooperation with iran. the pentagon last january expressed concern about a missile that was north korean in design that the iranians fired off, about


a 630-mile range on it. we know they're working with the iranians on missiles. are they working on them, with them, on a secret nuclear weapons program? perhaps. >> pat: there has been


some talk of seal team 6 being ready to do an as an assassination job on him. do you think that is at all possible. it is hard to penetrate that country. >> reporter: yes, it is very hard to penetrate the


country. and i don't know that you could get to un. he stays hidden. >> pat: they are talking about a regime change in china -- heard about that. but i know at this point


china is trying to cooperate with the u.s. and help us out by doing things like sending coal back to north korea, and stopping the flow of oil back and forth. economic measures, and military, they put 150,000


men on the border of north korea and china. whether they'll use them or not, we'll see. they would like to see tempers cooled. but for 25 years, they have not stopped north korea from what they were


doing. >> pat: the big mistake was when truman kept mccarthur from sealing off that area. but, no, we didn't do it. >> reporter: what did you think at that time, because you were there?


>> pat: hey, i was just a lowly lieutenant. and i didn't have much to do. we were all glad to get it over with. they were going back and forth in those negotiations, you know.


pang moon jon, whoever. but we were glad to see the fighting over. it was a nasty place. and it was cold. and the mountains where terrible, and people were getting killed. >> reporter: i have a


father-in-law who served over there. and one-third of his unit never came back. they had some brutal fighting. >> pat: it was terrible. and the thing is, they started trading.


i've got a hill here -- no, no, this is your hill. and they would fight over the hill. and the marines and others would die to take this piece of real estate which would then be given back at the negotiating table.


and it was nonsense. >> reporter: most americans do not realize we never had a peace treaty with them. it was a cease-fire agreement. we're still technically at war.


>> pat: endless negotiation. ladies and gentlemen, if there is ever something to pray about, this is it. >>> the manhunt has been under way across several states for the murderer who killed a man and


posted the murder on facebook. the victim's family has a message. wendy has that story. >> wendy: thanks, pat. >>> the children of the 74-year-old victim say they forgive their


father's killer because the bible tells them to. >> i just want him to know that god loves him. we love him. yes, we're hurt, but we have to forgive him, because if we don't forgive him, the bible


says your heavenly father won't forgive you. >> i forgive you, man. i'm not happy with what you did, but i forgive you. >> wendy: incredible. godwin was the father of six girls and four boys.


they say he took them to church every sunday. the killer, as you see there, steve stephens, is still on the run. >>> supreme court justice neil gorsuch hit the ground running on his first day on the high


court bench. he asked more questions than any of the other justices. now that gorsuch has been confirmed, the court is back to nine members. the court will take up a closely watched case


involving taxpayer money and religion on wednesday. cbn news will have a report on that case tomorrow. >>> well, don't look for tax reform to get finished any time soon. that's the word from


treasury secretary steve mnuchin. he said it was not realistic at this point. the economy has been the top issue for millions of voters. pat, as you know, tax cuts for businesses and


individuals is a key part of president trump's plan for getting the economy growing again. >> pat: well, i wouldn't argue with steven mnuchin. he is a very smart guy. but it seems they could lower the corporate tax


rate from 35% down to 25% by a stroke of the pen. okay, done. there is tremendous bipartisan support for that. they could lower the individual tax rate, same thing.


but in terms of an overhaul of the entire tax code, that is a monumental task. and, i'll tell you, every lobbyist from every corner of the world is going to be pushing the senators and the congressmen to


give their concessions -- leave them in the tax code. they call it the accountants' and lawyers' tax relief bill, and they don't want to give up what they've done. so it is going to be a


fight. they really should get it over with and come back and do the big one later. >> terry: up next, five former soviet republics where the only safe place to talk about jesus is the workplace.


see how young christian professionals in central asia are sharing the gospel. >> pat: welcome back. you're watching "the 700 man, it's full of news. there is so much going on in the world.


the growth of radical islam has helped make 2016 one of the worst years ever for christian persecution christians in a predominantly muslim region in central asia continue to face almost daily harassment for just


sharing their faith. even so, many young professionals in the five so-called stand countries are boldly spreading the our gorg george thomas was there with this story from a place called kyrgyzstan. >> george: a christian


living in any of the five former soviet republics of uzbekistan, kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, or turkmenistan, can expect harassment or worse, jail time, for telling other about their faith. artur, not his real name,


is from uzbekistan. be auit a witness for christ, >> when the authorities have found out that someone has converted to christianity, they will gather the family and bring them before a congregation of elders.


and they have to decide between faith or family. >> george: 25 years after the soviet union disappeared and these republics gave their independence, the five so-called stand states have become repressive and


hostile towards people of faith. in recent years, christians have come under intense pressure here in central asia. in fact, in an attempt to crack down on radical islam, these five


governments have enacted laws curbing their activity. but instead of going after muslims, these governments are using these laws to go after christians. dr. michael cherenkov follows religious freedom


issues in the former soviet union. >> these laws have forced christians to be more creative and invent new approaches to sharing the >> george: cherenkov says while churches and christian organizations


raise suspension, individual relationships go virtually unnoticed. >> we are discovering that being a witness for christ in the workplace is probably the only safe and effective form of evangelization.


>> george: on a recent saturday morning, hundreds of young christians from across the region met for the first ever next generation professional leaders initiative. the event was the brainchild and dream of


sergei. >> it is not possible to overstate the significance of the gathering. >> george: he grew up in the former soviet union and remembers what it was like as a young christian trying to discover his


purpose in life. >> i was not allowed to study at the university because i was a christian. and throughout the whole territory of the soviet union, you could not find even one christian professor, christian


doctor or christian lawyer. even the word "business" was a foreign word for christians at that time. >> george: he brought together entrepreneurs, doctors, educators, lawyers, and media experts


to teach young professionals how to be affective witnesses for christ in the marketplace. >> this is a generation that didn't grow up in a secular and repressive sovity mindsetsoviet mindset. so they have unique


talents. >> george: 31-year-old ormet works as an i.t. specialist from turkmenistan. >> i'm learning that my deeds should speak louder than my words, and that building long-term


relationships is vital. >> george: 17-year-old miriam teaches english in pakistan. >> my parents and all of my relatives are against me because i'm a christian. >> george: she says


meeting others who have also endured much for their faith and still want to be used by god was a huge encouragement. >> this is gathering is also important because it is teaching us how to safely combine our


profession with our compassion for christ. >> george: you've evgeny is a specialist. >> this is a wonderful opportunity to network with others. >> george: he says it is up to these young


professionals to instill biblical values into their societies. only then will they see lasting change. >> even though islam is the dominant religion, and the radical islam is becoming more influential


here, i am so blessed to witness the courage and confidence demonstrated by young christians in >> george: george thomas, cbn news, bishkek, >> pat: it is amazing. we were talking about prophecy, and the 38th


chapter of ezekiel tells about a coalition in the latter days that will come against israel. and part of that coalition involves those caucasian nations, those stands, and that will be part of the coalition.


in the news, by the way, the president of turkey just won what looked like a fixed, rigged election, but he won it. he is much more an autocratic dictator than he was before. and with few checks on his


power. so erdogan will claim that he is now the sole ought auttoecrat of turkey. he will move it much more extreme towards radical islam. so turkey joins in with these islamic republics in


russia. and you have a vicious coalition, which, again, joins with iran. and sudan -- i guess that would be the northern part of sudan, and all of these would come against israel in the latter days.


that's something you look for. but it is all shaping up. the drama is getting ready to get played out. we'll keep you informed. you have to read the newspaper on the one hand, but read the bible on the


other. >> terry: well, coming up, a pro-baseball player gets a career-threatening injury. >> players are a dime a dozen. if they hear that you're injured, it could cost you


your job really quick. >> terry: watch how this slugger was super natural naturally healed, after this. >> terry: each spring, our staff designates a special week of prayer, where we prayer for you,


our partners and viewers. from monday, april 24th through may 8th, we'll be praying for your needs. if you've received this mailing with a brochure called "planting the seeds of faith," we would love for you to take a moment


and send us your prayer request. or you can call the number you see on your screen. and it's toll-free: 1-800-700-7000. or you can write, if you'd like to, to cbn's week of prayer, cbn center,


virginia beach, virginia, 23463. it is our honor to pray for you, and we would love to hear from you. if you're a "700 club" member, watch for this mailing. if you're not, and you


need prayer, you can call or go online and we welcome your prayer requests. >>> derrick pyles has been a professional baseball player for eight years. he is living his dream. but he also knows that


players are a dime a dozen, and if you're injured, you can be replaced very quickly. that's why when derrick hurt his help, he kept it to himself and played through the pain. until it became so much,


he became desperate for an answer to his prayers. >> reporter: at 27-year-old old, derrick pyles was living hin his childhood dream. >> i started playing when i was six years old. and i always knew i wanted


to be a professional baseball player. >> reporter: derrick was in his seventh season with the triple "a" club when his right hip started hurting. >> i think the constant wear and tear, it just


started getting worse and worse for about eight months. >> reporter: as an out outfield deer and designated hitter, his hip was slowing him down. still, he never told anyone about his injury.


but there was a constant nagging in the back of my mind, knowing that this is bad, knowing that i really hadn't told the coaches, knowing that i wasn't at my very best. it was very frustrating. >> reporter: one night


while on the road, derrick went to his hotel room after toughing out another game. this time he knew he couldn't play through the pain much longer. and feared this could be the end of his season and


possibly his career. >> at that point in time, i was desperate. i was, like, lord, if you don't do something, i was going to be going home for the summer. now, i flipped on the tv, and i'd seen "the 700


club" before, and it was just there. and it just seemed like the perfect timing. >> reporter: as he watched, gordon and terry started praying. >> gordon: someone else, you have problems in your


right hip, and there is grinding in the joint. god is going to give you back that hip joint. no pain or discomfort in anything that you do. >> i really felt his power begin to move on that part of my body.


>> gordon: just receive it now in jesus' name. that was a true word from the lord and it was for me. and my pain level the following day was pretty much nothing. but then in about a day


and a half, i noticed it was completely better. i didn't feel the popping out of place or the grinding or anything like >> reporter: derrick played his next game and the rest of the season pain-free.


>> the fact that i was able to finish the season was a big deal. and it wasn't just about i really want to go out every year and really do well and see it is better for my family each year, too.


>> reporter: building on that successful season, derrick's career has continued to progress. he uses every opportunity to witness to teammates and fans about god's power to heal. >> we can pray big and


pray small, and really believe god for small things and pray for big things and pray for miracles. as long as our heart is right, to really honor the lord with it, and really give him all of the glory.


and god will do great things with our lives. >> terry: you know, it is such a celebration when an athlete makes a professional team, but one injury can make a total difference in your life. what a powerful story.


>> pat: it is a dramatic, wonderful healing. >>> here is one from cynthia who lives in michigan. she had an esophageal burning when she ate. after she was watching on


april 4th, last year -- i guess it was last year -- or this year -- maybe it was this year -- she heard terry give a word. someone, you have an esophagus problem. it causes pan for you.


and there is a burning that comes with it and so god is healing you. cynthia felt a warmth and she was completely healed. now she can drink coffee and have chocolate and anything else and no burning.


>> terry: that's awesome. patricia lives in ohio, and she suffered from bone spurs in her neck for years. she was watching this program on the 29th of march, and he heard you,


pat, give this word of knowledge: "there is arthritis in your neck, and you have a hard time even moving. put your hand on your neck in the name of jesus." patricia claimed the word, and immediately the pain


was gone, and she hasn't had any more pain since that day. >> pat: you know, we have these miracles take place every day, every day, every day. and there are thousands -- over a million right now,


as far as i can tell, but it's god. god wants to touch you and heal you. jesus never turned down anybody for healing. you read the gospel, and you will never find one person who jesus said, no,


i will not heal you -- not one. now, he made them wait for a time, he tested their faith, he pushed them -- a woman had quite a time getting through, but she got the answer. but in your life, jesus


has one word for the leper. he said, "i will be clean." and he says to you, "i will." now, what do you want. terry and i are going to join hands and believe god


right now. father, thank you for these wonderful examples of miracles. and, lord, at this moment, in this audience, there are people who are suffering. somebody has had -- it


looks like a help implant. and the operation hasn't gone very well. and you're having a lot of pain. and right now that whole thing is settling in into the socket. and the inflammation is


leaving and you are healed in the name of jesus. >> terry: someone else, you've had trouble with your hearing. you don't have hearing aids, but it is like suddenly your hearing is diminished.


you're so concerned about it. god is opening your ears right now in jesus' name. your hearing will be more acute than it has been in a long time. someone else, you also have esophageal problems,


and god is healing that for you right now. lift up your hand and receive it. you are made whole in jesus' name. >> pat: there is a doctor watching this program right now.


and your practice is going all to pieces because you're starting to shake. it is a nervous condition. you've had so many problems come upon you, and you are overwhelmed and you're just shaking. god right now is filling


you with piece. peace. you're going to have victory over all of these problems. and you're going to be completely whole in the name of jesus. thank you, lord.


>>> if you want further prayer, just pick up the phone and call in. terry, you have something else? >> terry: i felt like there is someone who has a problem with a loss of tissue mass.


i don't even know why you would have that, if there has been an accident or something. but god is going to restore that for you and rebuild the part of your body where that tissue has >> pat: the telephone is


easy, it is toll-free: there are counsellors right now on the phone and they'd love to pray for and we'd love to hear what god has done for you. >> terry: well, still ahead, shocking statistics on adultery and


pornography among christian men. the pastor of one of the largest churches in america talks about breaking addictive behaviors. johnnie hunt joins us live, later on today's


>> welcome back to "the 700 club." a big electric battle in a congressional race in georgia. democrats have poured more than $8 million into the contest. they're trying to get a


win against president trump. it is a seat vacated by tom price, who is secretary of health and human services. polls show john osesoff in the lead. >> it is about making sure


folks are aware there is an election. that's an important one. >> cautiously optmistic for tomorrow. >> wendy: if no candidate gets over 50%, the race goes to a runoff. that would favor the


republicans in that conservative district. >>> florida remains under a state of emergency because of wildfires. florida's governor says the state hasn't seen fires this intense since 2011.


the florida forestry service says there are 110 active fires covering more than 20,000 acres. the two fires needing the most attention are located in the central florida >>> you can always get the latest from cbn news by


going to our website at cbnnews.com. pat and terry will be back with more of "the 700 club" right after this. >> pat: we've got a shocking revelation for you right now. picture a man who is a


bible-believing christian who regularly attends church, but he also regularly gets drunk and has a couple of affairs. do you think this man is an exception? according to pastor johnnie hunt, this man is


the rule, not the exception. >> reporter: johnnie hunt has made it a mission to help people break strongholds, which he defines as any habit that has got ahold of you. johnnie is the pastor of


one of the largest churches in the u.s., first baptist church in woodstock, georgia. he says to break the chains of addiction and bad habits, we can't do it on our own. he shares the secrets to


breaking free from destructive behavior. >> pat: please welcome to "the 700 club," pastor johnnie hunt. johnnie, it is good to have you with us. >> thank you. it is a joy to be with


>> pat: hey, listen, you've pastored a lot of guys. are these men a little ashamed to talk about all of these sexual affairs? do they open up to you and tell you what they do? >> the very problem with


pornography is that it is secret. it keeps you in isolation, and that's exactly where the enemy takes those who ultimately take their life. so if we can get them to come out in the open,


sharing a moment ago, proverbs teaches that anything we cover he uncovers, and anything we uncover, he covers. but we've got to not only be willing to uncover them, or we won't prosper. so we're really finding


some real victory getting men there. >> pat: these guys are professing christians -- what do they do? >> well, when you realize that a person can deal with something that becomes a habit, and they


can feel i can break it any time. we hear it all of the time. but then there are times that habit really gets ahold of them, and the scripture refers to it as a stronghold.


and now as much as they want to be free, they haven't been able to break free. and they normally won't unless they go through certain steps and commitment that can lead to real victory.


>> pat: again, you are a pastor, and i've been a pastor along the way, and you deal with people and they begin to open up to how long does it take for them to open up what really is going on in their lives?


>> seemingly, the majority never have and may never will. but in the first part of my book, i tell the story of a leading christian minister that actually ended up taking his life. in other words, if you


don't demolish a stronghold, a stronghold will demolish you. and i think when you hear stories like that, it opens them up. until the pain of staying becomes greater than the pain of change -- they're


not willing to change. it is a constant challenge. >> pat: this deal is tearing up marriages, it's tearing up homes, it's tearing up careers. aren't they aware of what it does, this pornography


and having affairs and all of this stuff? >> detrick bonhoffer said years ago that it will lead you to momentary forgetfulness of god, and it seems to happ happen over and over again. and you're right, it has


ruined many homes and influence and testimony. the enemy has a way of covering up the consequences. he doesn't want you to think about the future. it is just that moment of pleasure.


>> pat: give us some for instances. can you point to one that you could tell us about? >> i can tell you that there are people in jail right now, ministers, that got into pornography and then it led to child


pornography, and then they were arrested, and they're facing long sentences. >> pat: ministers, as in -- >> as in ministers of the >> pat: do you know them personally? >> i know them personally.


>> pat: you do. and they got into child porn -- >> we have a ministry called "city of refuge." james dobson said it is one of the most complete ministries. i have eight pastors and


families right now that woodstock is literally taking care of. we furnish housing for them, furnish jobs for them, help them pay their bills, so they can keep their testimony above water, and we have a


ministry to help bring them back to health, in their marriage-in their hom, in theirhome,, in liar their children
. when you can get them into a safe place, you can peel the union and they're willing to tell you what is going on in their


lives. >> pat: you have about 10,000 members -- >> right at about 20,000. that's how many we're chasing. we don't get that many every week. >> pat: there it is, one


of the biggest churches in america. all right. but these people are professionals. you're dealing with folks -- these are higher income folks, real estate people, salesmen, doctors,


lawyers -- >> right. >> pat: and this porn is taking hold of them? it isn't the lower class, so to speak? >> i'd say 35% of the time that a person clicks on the web, it's to go to a


pornography site. 35%. there is nothing even a close second to porn on the world wide web to pornography. and then there are pop-ups for the kids. i constantly deal with


young men who go got addicted at 11, from a pop-up. if it comes up, it takes all of the spirit of god in you to move away from that site instead of following it. and so the enemy is so subtle.


remember how paul used to say that he feared lest the enemy through his subtleness would deceive you as he did adam and eve. and he is having a hey day hay day in the area of >> pat: i remember one


of the associates of dobson were talking about 30% of the ministers were having a problem with porn. is that it? >> that's it. and dobson, even 25 years ago, was saying he feared


50% of the men in the evangelical church were already struggling with >> pat: is this the general population? or is it an attack against christians? >> i think it is the general population, and it


certainly includes the christian church. >> pat: all right. you've got these guys -- somebody comes to you and he has this problem, what do you do to him? called "breaking free." it probably averages 200


men every monday night. so there is real accountability. i think we missed it in james 5: 16, where the scripture tells us to confess your faults one to another and pray for one another.


so we confessed it to god and we feel like we've got god's forgiveness, but it is a cycle. and we need to break the cycle. but i think when we bring another mature believer in that will hold us


accountable -- and that's a big word, "accountability" -- and then we're seeing real victory, where men are sharing with their wives. but the enemy will have them believe, if they share, they'll be dealing


with the consequences again. so they continue to live in isolation. >> pat: what do these wives do. suddenly her husband says, look, honey, i've been hooked up on porn, and if


he says, i've had an affair -- oh, you've hurt me and i'm walking out and taking the kids. what do you do to keep the wives from freaking out? >> a lot of times it is helping them understand it is really an addiction in


the person's life. someone may say this, there is no way you can do that and love your wife at the same time. i would challenge that statement. the enemy is out to destroy us.


i call him a glory stealer in my book. because ephesians says god want to get glory through the church. but the enemy steals the glory that god would have gotten for our lives. and we work with the wives


as well. a lot of times they've gotten into pornography, and they haven't made it to the affair. it is probably where it is going to end up if they don't get help. so if they're willing to


come and be true with their spouses, a lot of times it leads to greater intimacy between the husband and wife, because the wife can now say, my husband can share his deepest secrets with me, and it gives real hope for


the marriage. >> pat: i've seen these people. these very, you know, beautiful women, beautifully dressed, high fashion, high society -- they've got to deal with this stuff.


they're not just somebody off the street. athletethese are professional >> well, living in atlanta, the highest sex trafficking in the united states is in atlanta, and yet we're five million people compared to


19 million people in l.a. county, or 22 million in new york. so it is everywhere. whether it is on a computer, walking the streets, on a website that a person can travel to -- >> pat: this has become


a hub of sex trafficking. >> exactly. >> pat: people from south america and other countries -- >> all over the world. >> pat: into atlanta? >> into atlanta. you can read the stats on


the average age of the girl that is involved, the average age of the man that is looking to be involved. the average salary of a pimp in atlanta, georgia, is $30,000 a week. >> pat: a week?


not a year? >> $30,000 a week. >> pat: it is pretty lucrative. >> and we're involved in sex trafficking in bringing these young ladies off the streets, but we have a problem.


>> pat: what? >> they want to go back. their pimps have been good to them. it is amazing what they are willing to take if they get what they feel they want or need at the >> pat: you're serious?


>> very serious. the ones we brought into very nice homes, the major problem is not that we cannot help them, but they leave before we can get them deeply involved in the process. >> pat: are these


american women or foreigners? >> both. >> pat: ladies and gentlemen, if you want to get shocked, this is it. everybody ought to get ahold of this book. >> it was the number one


men's release when it hit the market. >> pat: it is available. i must say, as one who designs covers, this isn't the most attractive book cover i have ever seen. but if this doesn't turn you off, i don't know what


it is called "demo demonishing strongholds." you can get it wherever books are sold. >> good to see you. thank you for all you do. >> pat: you wouldn't believe it. and you don't believe it.


you women need to understand what is going on with your husbands. i remember one woman i encountered from overseas some place, and some witch had gotten hold of her husband. and i said, look, he has


been captured. you have got to get him these guys are under attack. >>> all right, terry, are you going to tell andy? >> terry: i guess so. get the book. >>> still ahead, we're


going to "bring it on." grace says, "my mom says i need to ask god for forgiveness, but i don't feel that way. what do you think, pat?" well, pat is going to tell us exactly what he thinks, after this.


>> terry: well, we want to take some time to "bring it on" with some of the questions you all have sent in. pat, this first one comes from, interestingly enough, grace. "my mom says i'm at the


age where i know right from wrong and i need to ask for forgiveness from god. but i don't feel that way. what do you think about this, pat?" >> pat: we used to have a big discussion in the


baptist church about when someone reaches the age of if there is no law, you don't understand the law, therefore you're not accountable and you're not guilty. at what point is it? age six?


age seven? grace, i don't know how old you are. if you're that old, you're old enough. if you're in your teens, absolutely. i don't think you need to, at age five or six, go


into a big penance and mea culpa time. but if there is stuff you're doing that you know is wrong, ask god to forgive you. if you say you don't feel like it, maybe you don't have any sense you've done


something wrong. that's what accountability is. if there is no law, there is no offense. >> terry: amy says, "15 years ago i attended a church and i was baptized. after so long i stopped


attending church and i denied god. is it possible to come to christ again after i repent?" >> pat: of course it is. god is always willing to receive us. we get these questions


over and over again because there are so many people who know the lord and they fall away. i don't know in your case whether you really were saved, whether you really came to the lord. i don't know enough about


but i do know this: whatever is going on in your heart, god will welcome you home. it is like a child who has wandered away from his parents and has left the house. look at the prodigal son.


he wasted his substance on riotous living, but he came home and the father gave a feast and welcomed him. that's the description of god almighty. he opens his arm and actually runs to you to


love you. >> terry: this is eric, pat, who says, "how can i get respected. my brother and sister-in-law moved into my mother's house again for the third time in the last five years.


they don't do chores. they leave messes and use me as a slave. i'm tired of bailing my brother out of jail. he and his wife are using my mother and me. i lock myself in my room and know it is not


healthy. i want help." >> pat: man, i need to know more about you. how old are you? are you a teenager? are you an adult? what is your status. your brother and


sister-in-law have moved into your mother's house and they've taken over. i'll tell you, the mother, if she wants to, can get a court order, a restaining order, and throw these people out, and she needs to.


they're free loaders. i don't know what else to say. i don't know if you have the opportunity to do you and your mother need to be in agreement that what these people are doing is wrong.


>> terry: this is julyian who july julian who says, "the book of revelation says there will be, quote, "a new heaven and a new earth." "will be given the choice to live in heaven?"


>> pat: it will be so wonderful you'll want to enjoy all of it. the earth will be marvelous. i was reading today, and i remember colonel wilson brought this out, and he was absolutely right, we


think of the rapture as the good people being taken out of the earth, and the earth being left for all of the bad people. but that's not what jesus taught. he said, in the latter day the angels will come and


take out of my kingdom all those who have sinned and cast them into outer darkness. and then the righ righteousness will shine forth. i think this earth that is set up is a pretty good place, and god will renew


nevertheless, this is going to be the place where the righteous are going to be. and you say, where will you live? you know, we've got an awful lot to learn about the solar system and the


universe we live in. i don't know. i'm asking for wisdom on it because it is so vast. you say, where will you live? you'll live in the middle of god's kingdom. and if you're part of the


chosen who have accepted him, it will be the most wonderful thing you could ever imagine. >>> we leave you with this power minute from matthew: "he shall give his angels charge over you, and in his hands, they shall


bless you." that's about all of the time we've got. thanks for being with us. terry, it is always a joy. god bless you, we'll see you tomorrow, bye-bye. >> terry: thank you, pat.





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